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Pharma has never invested more in AI. So why does transformation still feel stuck on the runway?

In this Top Gun-inspired episode of Off Label, Steve Royle is joined by transformation leaders Alyssa Fenoglio and Dr. Michael Kurr for a fast-paced discussion exploring one of pharma’s biggest uncomfortable truths:

AI isn’t the real problem.
The operating model is.

From copilots and automation to accountability, governance, leadership, and organizational design, this episode unpacks why so many AI initiatives struggle to scale — despite enormous investment and endless hype.

Together, the panel explores:

  • Who is actually “flying the plane” in pharma transformation?
  • Why AI scaling is fundamentally an operating model challenge
  • Where accountability breaks inside large organizations
  • Why transformation theatre is everywhere
  • The difference between efficiency and true reinvention
  • What pharma leaders need to stop believing about AI

Plus:

  • Top Gun references
  • “Danger Zone” moments
  • A preview of the debate heading to NEXT Pharma in Dubrovnik

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